Matt's favourite joke is, he says—doing some quick amateur acting—that he'll be on his deathbed, "trying to work something out, 'I've nearly got it', oops, dead.
"We're always going to be searching for more, figure it out, it's part of who we are. And when we embrace that and we're okay with it, we actually make a great coach."
The TCI trainer was expelled from two schools growing up and failed Year 10, "then essentially drank alcohol and took drugs for about five years. I did nothing except washing dishes in pubs but back then I was doing the best I had with the tools I had," he says.
"I didn’t know about resourcefulness and making good decisions ... so I can't look back at myself and say I should have done better. So when I started at TCI I was saying I want to learn about me. I said yes with low self esteem."
The powerful thing as a coach about acknowledging the myth of perfection is that your clients will relate to it.
"If you demonstrate to your clients that nothing's perfect and you're a work in progress, will always be a work in progress ... never aim for perfection, it just stresses people out," says Matt, whose tips on how to become a better public speaker could also be of help.
And then stressed people get worried and don't take action.
Your mission, starting today? Get committed to crossing out perfection.